From: =?utf-8?B?UsOzbWFu?= Joost To: frase@frase.id.au Subject: Re: WIP Refactor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mutt-Fcc: ~/Maildir/Sent Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2017 20:25:01 +1000 X-Mutt-PGP: S Message-ID: <3234@frase.id.au> In-Reply-To: <1234@url> References: <1234@url> > Beginning of large text > > "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod te= > mpor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, = > quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo con= > sequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cill= > um dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non p= > roident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum." > Section 1.10.32 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", written by Cicero in 45= > BC > > "Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium= > doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventor= > e veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo eni= > m ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed qui= > a consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neq= > ue porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, = > adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore e= > t dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis = > nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid = > ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea = > voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolore= > m eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?" > 1914 translation by H. Rackham > > "But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasur= > e and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the = > system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth= > , the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoid= > s pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not kno= > w how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extreme= > ly painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to ob= > tain pain of itself, because it is pain, but because occasionally circumsta= > nces occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To t= > ake a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exerc= > ise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find= > fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying cons= > equences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?" > Section 1.10.33 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum", written by Cicero in 45= > BC > > "At vero eos et accusamus et iusto odio dignissimos ducimus qui blanditiis = > praesentium voluptatum deleniti atque corrupti quos dolores et quas molesti= > as excepturi sint occaecati cupiditate non provident, similique sunt in cul= > pa qui officia deserunt mollitia animi, id est laborum et dolorum fuga. Et = > harum quidem rerum facilis est et expedita distinctio. Nam libero tempore, = > cum soluta nobis est eligendi optio cumque nihil impedit quo minus id quod = > maxime placeat facere possimus, omnis voluptas assumenda est, omnis dolor r= > epellendus. Temporibus autem quibusdam et aut officiis debitis aut rerum ne= > cessitatibus saepe eveniet ut et voluptates repudiandae sint et molestiae n= > on recusandae. Itaque earum rerum hic tenetur a sapiente delectus, ut aut r= > eiciendis voluptatibus maiores alias consequatur aut perferendis doloribus = > asperiores repellat." > 1914 translation by H. Rackham > > "On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men = > who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment= > , so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that = > are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty= > through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking fr= > om toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish.= > In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammelled and when nothing = > prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be we= > lcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to th= > e claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur th= > at pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man th= > erefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he re= > jects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains= > to avoid worse pains." > > End of long text Reply bla bla -- RĂ³man Joost email: roman@bromeco.de GPG key: 3A765B52